The UTEP Miner Bubble Watch
It's championship week in college basketball. Teams have had their chances to prove themselves throughout the season, and now the last opportunity has arrived. Many at large hopefuls enter this week with an opportunity to claim their conference title, and not have to break a sweat on selection Sunday. Unfortunately, only one teams can gain a conference's auto bid, and there are far more bubblers than that. ESPN currently puts 21 teams on the bubble, with only ten bids available.
For UTEP, there's good news, and there's bad news. The good news is the Miners are projected as one of the 20 plus teams fighting for an at large berth. The bad news is that they are projected as the 20th of those teams. They've got a lot of ground to make up entering the conference tourney, but here's a breakdown of their resume, and chances of making the Big Dance.
UTEP Miners (T-2nd C-USA) (22-8, 11-5) RPI: 59, SOS: 131, Road//Neutral Record: 6-6, Last 12: 8-4
Non-conference Record: 12-3, NCRPI: 64, NCSOS: 185
Pomeroy Ranking: 68, Sagarin Ranking: 72
Record vs top 25: 0-1
@ BYU (4) 68-89
Record vs top 50: 2-2
Memphis (40) 74-47
Marshall (50) 82-74
@ UAB (28) 97-100
BYU
Record vs top 100: 5-5
Michigan* (55) 65-56
Tulsa (82) 69-59
Air Force (100) 71-54
Memphis, Marshall
@ USM (52) 51-64
UCF (56) 68-74
@ Tulsa (82) 68-69
BYU, UAB
Bad Losses: @ East Carolina (113) 76-83, Georgia Tech* (160) 61-71, Pacific (180) 61-66
In a typical year, a resume like this would almost certainly not even be considered in the at large discussion. The RPI number is decent, but the SOS is completely suspect. But, this isn't a typical year, and the Miners should at least be mentioned in the selection room next Sunday. Again, according to ESPN, UTEP is 20th in a line for 10 spots. Beginning with the first team outside the tournament, the Miners sit behind Alabama, Georgia, USC, Missouri St, Baylor, Washington St, Nebraska, and Memphis.
Of these teams, both Nebraska and Baylor finished 7-9 in conference, and surely have slim to no chance of receiving an at large bid. At the very least, both would need to make it to the championship game of a very competitive Big 12 to even have their names spoken in that room next week. The next team that should be mentioned is Memphis. The Tigers had really begun to put together a nice resume, but just blew it down the stretch. Now, obviously the Miners would at least need to make the championship game of the conference tourney to have any shot. If they lost to Memphis in the championship, the Tigers would be out of the at large discussion. If the Tigers lose before the championship, still they'd be out of the at large talks.
Next come Alabama and Georgia. Alabama currently sits at 81 in the RPI, with an SOS of 147. Even with the couple of good wins they picked up, they've still got work to do. Alabama just knocked off Georgia at home in the season finale, and now if Alabama gets passed Auburn in the first round of the SEC tournament, it will set up the rematch in the second round. That game may very well be an elimination game for either squad. Even Georgia, who seemed like a solid bet a few weeks ago, has some holes in their resume, and obviously isn't so safe.
This leaves us with Missouri St, USC, and Washington St. Missouri St, in my opinion, has almost no chance of receiving an at large bid. The Bears did win the MVC regular season title, but the MVC was certainly down compare to recent years. Also, Missouri St. has no top 50 wins, with its best wins coming against Wichita St (62) twice, and Indiana St (88). These guys are NIT bound.
On to the Pac-10. USC has made a real push for an at large bid to end the season. The Trojans finished with five top 50 wins, including Washington, and Arizona in the final weeks of the season. They also have good ooc wins over Texas, and Tennessee that will take them a long way. On the other side of things though, USC has 5 sub 150 RPI losses. That will really weigh them down. They open up with CAL in the Pac-10 tourney, then will likely play Arizona. If they win those two they're in.
Washington St nearly locked up its bid to the NCAAs in the season ender against UCLA. The Cougs were leading for a good portion of the game, and without their leading scorer, but in the end they faltered leaving them at 9-9 in conference. WSU starts with UW in the Pac-10 tourney. The Cougars swept the regular season matchups with the Huskies, but I don't see a third win over their in state rivals in the near future. If they lose, their done.
As long as UTEP can make it to the championship game of the Conference USA tournament, they should probably move up at least into the first 4 or 5 teams out of the tournament. Being there means certainly being in the discussion come next Sunday.
Here are a couple more things of note.
1.) Obviously, teams that are currently projected in the tournament would need to lose, in order for teams from outside the tournament to move in. I'm looking at Michigan St, Va Tech, and Colorado.
-The Spartans have a completely mediocre resume, and are probably only given the credit that they are given because of previous success in the NCAA tournament. Regardless, they still need a couple of wins to solidify their spot. They face Iowa in the first round of the Big 10 tourney, and then would move on to face Purdue. I think they need both wins to get in.
-The Hokies seemed like a lock two weeks ago, but ended the season losing its last two to Boston College and Clemson. They'll face Georgia Tech, and then Florida St in the ACC tourney. Like MSU they probably need both to secure their spot. Don't be surprised if the selection committee has a soft spot for the Hokies though, as they were snubbed last year.
-Texas was up by 20 on the Buffaloes two weeks ago, and somehow let them come back and win it. That's the only thing keeping the Buffs where they are. Still, they're far from a lock. They'll play Iowa St, and then Kansas State in the Big 12 tourney. Like the others, they probably need both those wins.
2.) Obviously, these projections are only that, and are far from a set field. Still the bubble could expand, or contract. It may do a little of both, but I actually expect it to expand.
-Butler plays Milwaukee tomorrow in the finals of the Horizon League Tourney. Both are currently projected in the tournament. If Milwaukee wins, they would have three wins over Butler on the season. Butler should be done. Milwaukee doesn't have any at large chance so if they lose, they're done. Either way, it should be a one bid league.
-On the other hand, VCU knocked off George Mason yesterday, and will now play ODU in the finals of the CAA tonight. ODU, and GM are both pretty much locks, so if VCU wins, they will definitely burst someone's bubble.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Let's just go out there, win the conference tourney, and the only thing we'll have to worry about will be where we're seeded. If UTEP does make the NCAA tourney, there is possibility that they could start their run down the road in Tucson. If they win the C-USA tourney, the highest they would probably get is an 11 seed. That should start them in Tucson, in the Southwest Region. If they get in as an at large, it'll probably be as a 12 seed, and they'd probably be playing next Tuesday as one of the "first four". Either way, if we're in, we're in. I'll take it however it comes.
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Great article, and I agree.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. Let’s just go out there, win the conference tourney, and the only thing we’ll have to worry about will be where we’re seeded. If UTEP does make the NCAA tourney, there is possibility that they could start their run down the road in Tucson. If they win the C-USA tourney, the highest they would probably get is an 11 seed. That should start them in Tucson, in the Southwest Region. If they get in as an at large, it’ll probably be as a 12 seed, and they’d probably be playing next Tuesday as one of the “first four”. Either way, if we’re in, we’re in. I’ll take it however it comes.
I agree, if we win it, we won’t have to leave anything up to the committee. We have as good a shot as anyone to win this thing, and in most cases a better shot. It would have been nice to not have to be in a must win situation, but we put ourselves in this position and we need to make the best of it. Hopefully Tim strengthens up our schedule for next year, now that he has more control over it.
"BCS does not apply to basketball. It's football. You can't tell me Memphis is a mid-major. You can't tell me UTEP, with its history of players, crowd attendance and NCAA Tournament berths, is a mid-major. Same for Gonzaga and St. Mary's - it doesn't apply. These are high-major programs that can play. All we can do is win games and hope others recognize. … We should pass the eye test - if anybody ever watches us." - Tim Floyd
We really need to strengthen our schedule
The more big games we play, the more big wins we’ll get. Its not saying that we’ll win every big game, but 5-5 vs the top 50 is a lot better than 2-2.
I think the one thing that will do us in, in the at large talks, is the bad losses. Honestly take away, Pacific, and Georgia Tech, which we should have won both in my opinion, and we have a single bad loss. Not only that, but a single bad loss that was a conference road loss, and even more than that single bad loss, that was a conference road loss, that might have been the worst officiated game every. Basically, what I’m trying to say, is that with virtually no bad losses, we would practically be a lock.
Hopefully OD pulls it off
"BCS does not apply to basketball. It's football. You can't tell me Memphis is a mid-major. You can't tell me UTEP, with its history of players, crowd attendance and NCAA Tournament berths, is a mid-major. Same for Gonzaga and St. Mary's - it doesn't apply. These are high-major programs that can play. All we can do is win games and hope others recognize. … We should pass the eye test - if anybody ever watches us." - Tim Floyd
Come on ODU!
"BCS does not apply to basketball. It's football. You can't tell me Memphis is a mid-major. You can't tell me UTEP, with its history of players, crowd attendance and NCAA Tournament berths, is a mid-major. Same for Gonzaga and St. Mary's - it doesn't apply. These are high-major programs that can play. All we can do is win games and hope others recognize. … We should pass the eye test - if anybody ever watches us." - Tim Floyd
You guys might want to check this out...
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=jn-tourneymock022311
"BCS does not apply to basketball. It's football. You can't tell me Memphis is a mid-major. You can't tell me UTEP, with its history of players, crowd attendance and NCAA Tournament berths, is a mid-major. Same for Gonzaga and St. Mary's - it doesn't apply. These are high-major programs that can play. All we can do is win games and hope others recognize. … We should pass the eye test - if anybody ever watches us." - Tim Floyd
very good read
good stuff to know. But bad for the Miners. I mean If how they’re playing down the stretch, conference record, and other factors don’t matter…it’s literally about our body of work. Unfortunately, I don’t think its strong enough. Then again, nobody’s really is, so I’m not really sure what to think. They selection committee is surely going to have their work cut out for them.
they you all hear how St marys n Gonzaga are both guranteed bids
regardless of the outcome? here’s a comparison
RPI SOS top 50wn
Gonzaga 62 103 2-6
Memphis 38 55 3-4
UAB 28 68 3-4
St Marys 44 112 1-4
Gonzaga leading St. Marys 59-53 with 5:27 to go
Does this have any impact on the bubble or were both of these teams really expected to be at-large bids?
Last I heard they were both in anyway
But I’ll check on that
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I don't really know how St Mary's is such a lock
1-4 vs the top 50, and the only win was vs St Johns when even fordham and st bonaventure took em out. 3-5 vs the top 100, and a loss to rpi no. 316 San Diego. Honestly these guys resume is no better than the Miners’. They are far from a lock, imo of course.
Villanova doesn't fail to impress....
It’s a good thing for Nova that the committee “supposedly” doesn’t look at the final 10 games of the season as Nova has now impressively lost 5 in a row; 7 of their last 9; and 10 out of their last 15 (one of which was an 2 point OT win versus 7-24 (1-17) Depaul). Regardless, Dumbardi and E$PN has them squarely in as a 7 seed. What a joke!
Lousy
If anything I thought this would at least raise the potential that they are put on a bubble. But guess not…

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