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Thoughts on NCAA and NIT Tournament Selections

So its the Monday after selection Sunday, and people all over the country are upset at the "snubbing" of a few teams, while other "less deserving" teams made the cut. Plenty of ESPN analysts are practically calling for the heads of the NCAA tournament selection committee after they made selections that were apparently not approved by the media giant. There are plenty of questions out there after seeing the 2011 bracket, but the biggest has been why UAB and VCU are in, while Colorado and Virginia Tech are out? But is there a real case here, or just more of the major conference bias?

If you ask me, this is nothing more than a bias. ESPN analyst Jay Bilas actually went as far as to say that UAB accomplished nothing this season. Now, I didn't play basketball for DUKE, and I surely don't have a law degree, but last time I checked finishing 1st in the 8th best conference in the land is certainly accomplishing something. Winning 10 games versus the top 100 is certainly accomplishing something. But, I guess, finishing 1st in one of the best mid-major conferences is trumped by finishing 6th in a major conference. I guess going 1-4 versus the top 50, and 10-7 versus the top 100 is nowhere near as good as 2-5 vs the top 50 and 8-8 vs the top 100. 

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 This year, major conference teams accounted for 30 of the total 37 at large bids, and yet everyone is crying foul that these two mid-majors made the cut. We might as well just drop all mid-majors from the NCAA tournament, and keep it strictly to major conference teams. Better yet, why don't we just crown the Big East tourney champion as the NCAA champ. I mean the Big East has the best teams and always wins the NCAA tournament anyway right? And, it's not like mid-majors ever make any runs in the tournament. Oh wait, over the last 6 years, two mid-majors have come within a bucket of winning the national championship, and another made the final four, while the Big East has put how many teams into the title game? Don't worry I'll wait.....0.

Of the seven at large bids that went to mid-majors, 4 of them have been consistently in the top 25, with the other three being UNLV, UAB, and VCU. UNLV is no doubt deserving with wins over Wisconsin, Kansas State, and Virginia Tech. UAB is no doubt deserving as the C-USA regular season champ, with 10 top 100 wins. VCU who may be the least "deserving" of the three still has wins over UCLA (43) on a neutral court, ODU (21) on the road, and George Mason (26) on a neutral court. No matter what, it comes down to what the committee thinks. Cases could be made for or against ANY bubble teams, but the ones with the say so make the decisions, and they obviously felt these teams were better than Colorado, VT, or Alabama. Deal with it. 

Now for those that don't buy the big guy, little guy bias, just check out the field of the NIT, which ESPN undoubtedly has complete control over. Take for instance Miami (FL). The Hurricanes finished the season at 19-14, 6-10 in conference, 1-5 versus the top 50, and 5-11 vs the top 100. That's a two seed there. How about Northwestern? The Wildcats finished 17-13, 7-11 in conference. They went 1-11 versus the top 50, and 5-13 vs the top 100. That's worthy of a four seed. 

Now let's take a look at the 8th best conference who only got two teams into the big dance. UTEP, who finished tied for second, and nearly won the conference tournament, gets a 5 seed. That's it. Only three teams from the 8th best conference in the land are deserving of a bid to the NCAA or NIT. 

Now I can't really argue against the selections of the NCAA. I knew that Conference USA would get two bids, and I also knew that there was no way the committee could justify taking UTEP over UAB, even if the Miners were more deserving. But the NIT, wow. Well actually ESPN, wow. You think it's a little obvious that ESPN is upset over the controversy with C-USA bolting for FoxSports?? Tulsa, who finished tied for second in C-USA was 3-2 versus the top 50, and 6-8 versus the top 100, but I guess those 1-5 and 1-11 records were that much better than that. Marshall finished 2-4 versus top 50, and 7-8 versus the top 100, including a win over West Virginia, and an RPI in the 50s, but that wasn't good enough either. Only four teams that finished in the top 70 RPI were held out of the both the NCAA and NIT tournament, and three of those four teams are from Conference USA. 

Conference USA teams Marshall, UCF, and SMU all accepted bids to play in either the CIT or CBI, while Southern Miss and Tulsa both declined invites to those tourneys. I can't say I blame them. All respect to those tournaments, but Marshall, Southern Miss, and Tulsa are definitely top 100 teams. They were robbed. It's just a shame that such quality teams fall victim to the politics of college athletics. More than that, that a media outlet has the power to serve such an injustice to not only these schools, but the players that have worked so hard all season, and for years at that. It's a shame.

The burden of proof is now placed on teams like Memphis, UAB, and UTEP. These teams will have their shot to pick up some quality wins, and they need to take advantage of it. Early exits by these teams will allow for more of the same in years to come. We've come a long way as a conference, and we've produced some high quality programs, but if we want to gain the respect we deserve, we've got to win these games, the ones that actually matter.

NOTE TO MEMPHIS, UAB, AND UTEP: You all have a great opportunity to be the representation for a conference that has been greatly disrespected. Go out prepared to play, and show these guys just how good we are...I got to talk to Will Barton for a second after the championship game, and I told him exactly that. Hopefully it translates into good play, and wins. 

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The whole thing was a freaking joke!....

I had one buddy call me today to complain to me how his beloved Longhorns got snubbed with the 4 seed and solicit my opinion, which I agree with, all the while knowing the dislike I have for said team. To his surprise he had no idea UTEP was passed over for selection and was shocked to hear we hadn’t made the field. His exact comment to me was “I don’t feel bad at all now after now hearing what happened to UTEP and the conference in general…that’s bullshit!”. He further added, “I never really thought UTEP wouldn’t recieve an at-large after the season they’ve had in that conference.”

As for the rest of the conference, it was an absolute farce what occured with the E$PN NIT subbing of Marshall, Tulsa, S. Miss & UCF. The bias towards our conference was overt and blatant! Simple as that!

Jay BilAss on the other hand has ZERO credibility! He backs up nothing he says with facts, statistics or any professional acumen. All he does is regurgitate personal opinion coupled with popluar media soundbites. Make no mistake, his opinions are unimpeded by common sense, congnizant principles, sensible reasoning and professional rationale!

by MinerMike on Mar 14, 2011 2:44 PM MDT reply actions  

A little bit of perspective.....

I know the vast majority of us are disappointed that we’re not playing in the n¢aa tourney, but I must say after reading some of the blogs from other C-USA programs e.g. Tulsa, they are miserable and want Wojack’s head on a pike! I read one post that stated, “how bad is it that we’re just hoping to be on the NIT Bubble list?”. That’s pretty bad!

by MinerMike on Mar 14, 2011 2:45 PM MDT reply actions  

I posted this on our other thread, but this seems like the more appropriate place for it.....

Reading the NIT selection rules, it would appear that the seeding of UTEP was probably less of a ‘snub’ versus a logistical and potential revenue generating decision. Here’s the specific seeding rule/guidline:

Procedures for Seeding the Teams
1. The priority for the committee will be to achieve the best-possible competitive balance in each region, while placing teams as close to their areas of natural interest as possible.

As stated above, there’s still no excuse for the omission of any other C-USA team in this 32 team field!

by MinerMike on Mar 14, 2011 2:50 PM MDT reply actions  

You are right there is no excuse

You (not you, but the NIT “committee”) can try to justify why UTEP was placed as a 5 seed, but nothing can justify teams like Marshall, Southern Miss, and Tulsa ALL being left out. There were strong cases for all to be included, but there is absolutely no case (except for ESPN getting revenge) for them all to be excluded.

by asalom on Mar 14, 2011 4:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm with you buddy!...

No excuse whatsoever! Interestingly, as far as us being seeded according to their guidelines, I found an article, that I’m unable to relocate, that states in part that; the NIT has a habit of scheduling games, specifically at The Pit, due to their history of being able to sell the venue and creating an n¢aa-like game atmosphere for Televsion ratings. It’s no surprise that they under-seeded us in order to obtain the matchup E$PN desired all the while sticking it to our conference as a whole!

by MinerMike on Mar 14, 2011 4:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah they also probably thought they could take advantage of traveling UTEP fans, kinda sucks but thats E$PN for ya.

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by jakeprobst on Mar 14, 2011 4:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

Great point-

Great find- seriously- and that makes total sense, doesn’t it? Would a typical Miner fan be more likely to get excited over UNM on ESPN or playing against Drexel anywhere? This tourney needs to make money too- I get that.

by Adrian Mac on Mar 14, 2011 7:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

This is unbelievable!....
Only four teams that finished in the top 70 RPI were held out of the both the NCAA and NIT tournament, and three of those four teams are from Conference USA.

As you’ve stated, the talk is over, now we have to produce in order to justify our claims and prove the counter to the argument wrong!

by MinerMike on Mar 14, 2011 2:54 PM MDT reply actions  

I don't mean disrespect to these programs, but

Bethune Cookman in the NIT??? Are you serious? RPI of 199, 17-12 overall, and 0 top 50 wins. Make that 0 top 100 wins. No make that 0 top 150 wins. These guys have 1 top 200 win over Hampton. UCF beat these guys by 17, Baylor beat them by 44, and Arizona beat them by 33. McNeese St, also another team with a horrible RPI, that lost to Southern Miss by 15, and also lost to Washington by 52. Also, another team that has 0 top 150 wins. Milwaukee has 8 losses outside the top 100. Come the f*** on. I’m sure some of these teams get in because they won their conference, but this is just horrible.

by asalom on Mar 14, 2011 4:27 PM MDT reply actions  

Here's what I don't get....

As we are all aware, the job of the n¢aa committee isn’t to field the 68 best teams into the tournament, but rather to field the tournament with those 68 teams that qualify for tournament selection according to certain met criteria. This said, it would stand to reason that of those top/best 68 teams in the country that were not selected the NIT would surely want to fill their brackets with those top teams first? If they had simply selected the remaining teams of the top 68; UTEP, S. Miss, Marshall, Central Florida, VaTech, Oklahoma St., Boston College, Alabama, Colorado, New Mexico & Harvard would be in the tournament. That’s 11 spots, there would still be 21 seats to fill. This seems like the most logical way to begin and would certainly make for a far better and revenue generating tournament?

by MinerMike on Mar 14, 2011 4:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

Definitely

But its not about getting the best teams. Its about politics. If it wasn’t the NCAA would be the best 68 teams, period, and the NIT would be the next 32. Whatever. I’m just happy UTEP isn’t in Tulsa’s, Marshall, or USM’s spot. That would be tough to take.

by asalom on Mar 14, 2011 5:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oddly, but not surprisingly....

Of those next tier teams that I listed above all of those teams with the exception of S. Miss, Marshall and Central Florida rec’d an invite. And if they filled the remaining 21 seats (minus the regular season conference champions) Tulsa still makes the cut into the NIT! WOW, where there’s smoke there’s fire……there really is something going on here!

by MinerMike on Mar 14, 2011 5:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

A few things...

similar to yall, ive been battling bloggers across the country trying to state why UAB should be in. I dont see why its a surprise, they won the 8th best league in the country outright and I think the most important thing that separates them from the other bubble teams was the Blazers had no BAD losses…other than the tourney loss against ECU and that was in OT. Colorado went through a stretch where they lost 7 of 9 games in late Jan and early Feb…that included losses against Okla and Iowa State. Im sorry but that’s unaccaptable. Va Tech got swept by Virginia and lost at Ga Tech bad.

But here’s where I differ on some other posters…I actually think CU and Va Tech do deserve to be in. The selections I question are VCU, USC, Penn State and Illinois….all these teams sucked this year….USC lost to Rider, Bradley and TCU!!!!! 10-8 in the Pac-10 is not a big deal especially this year. Penn St had 14 losses! Thats insane.

The VCU selection makes me believe that the committee did place value on doing well in a tough mid major league…and it pains me to say this but I think if we had won Saturday morning…I really believe CUSA would have gotten 3 teams in. Because Memphis absolutely had a better profile than UAB.

I honestly believe these talking heads at BSPN were just pissed that they didnt get the selections correct. I really do believe now more than ever that there is an agenda by ESPN against CUSA because of the impending lawsuit….why such an attack against UAB?

I will say that the committee was very scatter brain overall, I saw the field and thought to myself even we were better than many of those teams based on the criteria of the teams that made it, but for ESPN to bash what UAB accomplished was pathetic. They obviously feel they run the NCAA, but guess what they dont and I have to say i’m glad they wont have any NCAA tourney games for the forseeable future.

by DFWMiner on Mar 14, 2011 7:27 PM MDT reply actions  

You are exactly right

They really do think the run the NCAA. Jay Bilas made a comment somewhat to the effect of “there’s a reason we didn’t project them (UAB) in the tournament…because they didn’t deserve it”..Well apparently they did. At least to the only people whose opinion matters.

Either way, their agenda against Conference USA is becoming very apparent. All season long they project C-USA as a one bid league, then they have this huge outburst about UAB getting in, and to top of all off, they leave out three quality basketball teams from their tournament. How obvious can they be??

by asalom on Mar 14, 2011 7:58 PM MDT reply actions  

Asalom- this is a GREAT Post
NOTE TO MEMPHIS, UAB, AND UTEP: You all have a great opportunity to be the representation for a conference that has been greatly disrespected. Go out prepared to play, and show these guys just how good we are…I got to talk to Will Barton for a second after the championship game, and I told him exactly that. Hopefully it translates into good play, and wins.

This was worthy of repeating.

by Adrian Mac on Mar 15, 2011 2:47 PM MDT reply actions  

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