Monday Morning Fail: UCF Rocks UTEP 74-68 Post Game Venting Thread
by Adrian Mac on Feb 21, 2011 1:00 PM MST
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Nine thousand, eight hundred and twenty four Miner fans called in sick, or cut class, or used their day off to go to the Don Haskins Center and see UTEP take on UCF at 11:00 am today. The problem? UTEP's hoops team didn't show up until well past noon.
If you were lucky enough not to watch this game, you might see the final score of 74-68 and think the game might have been competitive. It wasn't. UTEP shaved the lead during garbage time when UCF had taken their foot off the gas.
How bad was UTEP's performance today? Let's just say Jeff Limberg's announcing work was one of the highlights. Even UTEP's generally awful in game music selection didn't seem as bad as the stink that was UTEP's first half.
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Completely!
9800 fans on a Monday morning tip off!! And that’s what they get. Just an absolutely terrible performance all the way around. No hustle, no urgency, no mental toughness.
Turnovers, technicals, foul trouble—- First UTEP lets UH hang around then they don’t show at home against an RPI Top 100 team. Forget ANY At large talk now. Just disappointing.
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McCulley's technical really, really hurt (And he did taunt)
That allowed the Knights to get a few gasps of air from the streak UTEP was on and, in the end, that was enough for them to get back into control.
Well I am as pissed as anyone, but we have to move on.
We take on ECU at their place on wednesday, and at least we know their won’t be any partying til then. Hopefully we have Perez back , because we need his minutes. We need to pick up the win here, and then get FOCUSED for Memphis on Saturday. They can talk all they want, but I still would like to kick their ass.
"BCS does not apply to basketball. It's football. You can't tell me Memphis is a mid-major. You can't tell me UTEP, with its history of players, crowd attendance and NCAA Tournament berths, is a mid-major. Same for Gonzaga and St. Mary's - it doesn't apply. These are high-major programs that can play. All we can do is win games and hope others recognize. … We should pass the eye test - if anybody ever watches us." - Tim Floyd
i thought if anything the ECU game would be a potential upset
but this loss comes as a real failure.
hard to explain this one, i guess it happens thru the course of a season, but I thought
our crapper game was out of the way…USM…like I said in the game thread, UTEP destroyed UCF twice last year, really embarrased them, the same group of guys just had a chip on their shoulder and our guys thought this was gonna be a breeze in the park
Same here.
In a league this tight, on the road especially, that’s bound to happen. Now, the last three games (including the stagnant performance against UH until late) may be showing a disturbing trend. This team is not peaking at the right time the way we did last year.
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Yeah we can- that's my bet right now
Split Memphis/Marshall and split ECU/SMU on the road. Insane that UTEP is now in 4th place.
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I find it interesting to note that since Perez has been out, we have really struggled to find any kind of consistency. I guess he was more valuable than we thought. Hope we get him back soon.
"BCS does not apply to basketball. It's football. You can't tell me Memphis is a mid-major. You can't tell me UTEP, with its history of players, crowd attendance and NCAA Tournament berths, is a mid-major. Same for Gonzaga and St. Mary's - it doesn't apply. These are high-major programs that can play. All we can do is win games and hope others recognize. … We should pass the eye test - if anybody ever watches us." - Tim Floyd
i put more of the blame on Polk's cold streak
Perez doesn’t have that many minutes yet to make that kind of impact IMO
Let's not forget the 9-10 missed layups this game
18-20 points right there. LAYUPS!
Layups!
I imagined you saying that in a Herman Edwards voice
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Myron Strong
It’s funny because everybody always talks about how losing Arnett and Derrick killed this team but nobody ever mentions Myron. Julyan simply isn’t a good shooter. And when Polk is in a funk like he’s been in the last few games, UTEP has nobody that can create their own shots and provide a spark other than Randy.
Randy needed Myron Strong today to take some pressure off of him. Polk is 0/14 in his last two games. Against USM he was 2/6. So in his last three, Polk is shooting 10% from the field.
That’s not #witease.
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i never felt like he played to his potential
randy definitely needs his “robin” though. J. Will has this potential, but rarely pans out
Some NAIA but he really did vanish
Myron wasn’t Superman, but he was instant offense in limited minutes. He had some monster games down the stretch last year that really helped bail UTEP out. Today we saw that UTEP isn’t built to play from behind unless Polk is on. No alternative. Strong wouldn’t drain threes, but he’d get to the line, and make plays. When Polk isn’t hitting, we get nothing.
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Yeah he scored 42 or something like that not too long ago. I saw him post it on Facebook.
"BCS does not apply to basketball. It's football. You can't tell me Memphis is a mid-major. You can't tell me UTEP, with its history of players, crowd attendance and NCAA Tournament berths, is a mid-major. Same for Gonzaga and St. Mary's - it doesn't apply. These are high-major programs that can play. All we can do is win games and hope others recognize. … We should pass the eye test - if anybody ever watches us." - Tim Floyd
No.
"The world would truly be a better place if you didn’t exsist. You should just lean over the plate and take one for the team, run into oncoming traffic or something." -S l c Ranger HE MAD! The internet is serious business.
by TooLegitToQuit on Feb 21, 2011 1:43 PM MST up reply actions
last four games...
At ECU— toss up
Memphis—toss up
Marshall—prolly will win out of desperation
At SMU—toss up
any thoughts? again, I just worry about gettin a bye…
ECU's pretty good
Right now, I’d say UTEP splits. But this team could beat Memphis and lose to SMU. The last few games have me very confused as to what this teams identity is.
Are we a low post team that wants to build around Claude? Are we a dribble drive team (which is what Randy essentially did today)?
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i sort of thought that too
i feel like Claude’s offense has been a nice distraction at best. Although i’ll take it while it lasts
Hard to say
Because it’s all based on if the Miners win the battle against themselves!
We all know they can easily beat all four of these teams, but we also know that they are capable of really scary, untimely mental lapses.
That makes everything from here on a toss-up.
we get 2/4
i think we take ECU and Marshall
i really don't see any scenario where UTEP gets a bid this year
not only we need the 4/4, but we have to take the conference tournament
i honestly thought the only was we would get a bid was to run the entire table and lose in the CUSA final...
at this point, its all about seeding for the tourney
+ lack of hustle on the glass
No excuse for UCF to rebound their own missed free throws.
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Man- Rice was worse
UCF is #79 in the RPI. But, this one feels worse because it was the only game on in the country. EVERYBODY is seeing the score right now. Pat Forde is tweeting about it. This game will kill the perception of UTEP and even the C-USA.
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Eh- good point
Everybody likes to knock C-USA down to 1 bid- makes their jobs easier.
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USM?! Wait the got blown out by SMU and Marshall.
UAB? Wait they can’t beat Memphis.
Memphis? Blown out by last place Rice.
Tulsa? Beat Memphis, UTEP, and UAB- Could Tulsa be peaking at the right time? All of a sudden they’re in third place.
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That would be crazy if Tulsa won...
"BCS does not apply to basketball. It's football. You can't tell me Memphis is a mid-major. You can't tell me UTEP, with its history of players, crowd attendance and NCAA Tournament berths, is a mid-major. Same for Gonzaga and St. Mary's - it doesn't apply. These are high-major programs that can play. All we can do is win games and hope others recognize. … We should pass the eye test - if anybody ever watches us." - Tim Floyd
It is
But I keep bringing up Tulsa becase they have a huge tiebreaker advantage with the wins over Memphis/UAB. UTEP is absolutely screwed in tie-breaker scenarios. Tulsa has Marshall, Tulane, Rice, USM.
If Tulsa beats Marshall, I’d guess that their game against USM to close the season will be for the C-USA Championship. USM still plays UAB again right before that. TU beats UAB in head to head situation.
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the conference tourney is wide open
that is going to be fun/horrible. OK – at least it will be unpredictable
Exactly-
People fear what they don’t understand. Much easier to sweep C-USA under the rug than to crunch the numbers and see how good this league is. UTEP didn’t lose to an RPI 250+ team, UCF beat Florida, UMass, Miami, etc.
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hate to state it again, but
this type of play in the big 6 is seen so positive, while it destroys the underlings.
New C-USA Standings
Southern Miss 9-4 20-6
UAB 9-4 19-7
Tulsa 8-4 15-11
UTEP 8-4 20-7
Memphis 8-4 20-7
Southern Methodist 7-5 16-10
Marshall 6-6 18-9
East Carolina 5-7 13-13
Rice 4-8 12-14
Houston 4-8 12-13
UCF 4-9 17-9
Tulane 2-11 12-14
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And will be an RPI Top 75 team.
This league is simply impossible to wrap your head around.
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nothing worse for C-USA
than to have someone like Rice, Tulane, or ECU take the conference tournament. Knocking firmly on wood.
Well, we can still make the tournament but we are going to have to win the tourney, which won't be easy.
"BCS does not apply to basketball. It's football. You can't tell me Memphis is a mid-major. You can't tell me UTEP, with its history of players, crowd attendance and NCAA Tournament berths, is a mid-major. Same for Gonzaga and St. Mary's - it doesn't apply. These are high-major programs that can play. All we can do is win games and hope others recognize. … We should pass the eye test - if anybody ever watches us." - Tim Floyd
57 comments on a venting thread! Damn that game
was upsetting.
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I dont think it will be
But won’t look goof for UAB and Memphis either. I think TU wins the regular season, We might have a one bid league.
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Frustrating
As much as this game frustrated me as least you can say the guys fought till the end, crowd was great will be like this on saturday.
Southern miss still play @UCF,vs UAB, @tulsa
UAB plays @Houston, @ USM, vs ECU.
Gonna be a interesting 2 weeks.
It was only a couple of minutes but I’m glad perry got some playing time, he played hard
by cybarra2 on Feb 21, 2011 1:48 PM MST via mobile reply actions
They did push it till the horn
That was nice to see, Juat got themselves in too much of a hole.
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They always struggle with Houston
for sone reason, but the UTEP game is now even more huge. The loser, right now, looks to lose the bye.
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Julyan on facebook
“we proved to be the definition of soft, Time for us to look in the mirror and determine what we want out of this season”
by cybarra2 on Feb 21, 2011 2:04 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Sadly he nailed it
he takes losses hard- he’s a true competitor
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Love that kid, really gonna miss him
"BCS does not apply to basketball. It's football. You can't tell me Memphis is a mid-major. You can't tell me UTEP, with its history of players, crowd attendance and NCAA Tournament berths, is a mid-major. Same for Gonzaga and St. Mary's - it doesn't apply. These are high-major programs that can play. All we can do is win games and hope others recognize. … We should pass the eye test - if anybody ever watches us." - Tim Floyd
Can’t ask for a better leader, he leaves everything out on the court. I’m expecting this team to bounce back BIG the rest of the season
by cybarra2 on Feb 21, 2011 2:15 PM MST via mobile reply actions
I don't know how many of you all made it to the game
But actually being there I was just completely shocked. I couldn’t believe the poor effort in the first half, and we just dug ourselves too deep a hole to come back from.
I just can't emphasize enough that if the Miners regain focus
Regain — and then maintain — their focus that no one can beat them.
They just need to focus and let their bodies rest properly for the rest of the season!
I couldn't agree more
But John Teicher said it well in the post game show. This team’s personality is one that is very lax. At times they like to just sit back, and flip the switch only when necessary. You RARELY, RARELY see these guys put teams away. In fact the only game that comes to mind is the first Rice game. That’s just the way they play. Unfortunately, that isn’t good enough. This isn’t the SWAC or the Mid-Eastern Conference. This is C-USA, and anyone can beat anyone. You just can’t play like that, especially come February/March.
lets no forget UCF at one point was 14-0
and ranked #19. it was a bad loss but better now than in tourney. Expect UTEP to go on a 7-0 winning streak.
True- they are a top 80 RPI team for a reason
Despite the recent skid. They have won 3 of 4 and played UAB tough.
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7-0....We not only need it to happen, but I expect that it will happen. If this game didn't serve as a wake up call then nothing will....
This squad is filled with seniors that I have to beleive want a return trip to the Tourney to make amends for last years one and done. In order for that to happen, we need to take care of business first and that means finishing out stronger, better and more focused than they have demonstrated all season.
UAB and USM have 4 losses too-
I should emphasize that. UTEP is percentage points behind them. For seeding purposes we need them both to lose becuase of tie-breaker, but for C-USA Championship Purposes- we just need to win out and we can get a share of the title still.
Hopefully, this will be the wake up call because we know this team is better than what we saw this morning.
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