Conference USA Bubble Watch
We're coming down the homestretch in college basketball as most teams only have a handful of games left. Its time to make your statements for an at large bid, or just fold and move on like the rest. Conference USA still has four teams vying for at large bids, with three likely having a good shot at one. UAB, Memphis, UTEP, and Southern Miss are all in the running, but after being swept by Memphis, USM's chances of gaining an at large berth have been greatly diminished. This Wednesday brings showdowns between the top four teams in conference, so its now or never. We'll know a lot more about where these teams stand after tomorrow's games, but here's what we know as of today.
1.) UAB Blazers (18-6, 8-3) RPI: 33, SOS: 63, Last 10: 7-3, Pomeroy: 56, Sagarin: 53
The Blazers have managed to put together a resume that seems to be very worthy of an NCAA tournament bid. They are 6-5 versus the top 100 RPI, and only have a single "bad loss" at Arizona State back in November. They still have three top 100 games left on the schedule including tomorrow night's showdown with Memphis. Winner of that game undoubtedly has a great shot of receiving an at large bid. UAB will be without star F Cameron Moore for at least a couple of weeks. The 6-8 Junior broke his hand in practice, and will be out an unspecified amount of time. That will certainly be taken into account by the selection committee, assuming he will be back for the NCAA tournament, but the Blazers still need to stay competitive.
OUTLOOK: I don't think the Moore injury will hurt this team TOO much as they still have Aaron Johnson, Jamarr Sanders, and Mike Davis running things. They will continue to compete, but do still have road games at Memphis and Southern Miss. If those are the only two losses UAB has the rest of the way, they will be given serious consideration for an at large. If the tournament started today, they probably just miss the cut due to the Moore injury.
2.) Memphis Tigers (19-6, 7-3) RPI: 36, SOS: 54, Last 10: 7-3, Pomeroy: 83, Sagarin: 60
The Tigers hurt their at large chances a couple of weeks ago by losing back to back games against Marshall and Tulsa. They've followed that up with three straight wins, and for now seem to be hanging on by a thread. Time after time the Tigers have escaped losses with comebacks, and last second heroics. The Tigers are now 8-5 vs the top 100, and with their solid RPI and SOS numbers seem poised to make a return to the NCAA tournament after a year absence. They still have two games left versus the top 100 RPI, and winning both those game would certainly solidify their berth. A 5-1 finish down the stretch should be more than enough to put the Tigers in the tournament.
OUTLOOK: Some might call them good, but I'll call them lucky. The Tigers have put themselves in this position by winning game after game in the final seconds. A few of them go the other way, and they've got almost no chance of making the tourney. If the tournament started today, Memphis would be safely in.
3.) Southern Miss Golden Eagles (16-6, 7-4) RPI: 44, SOS: 101, Last 10: 6-4, Pomeroy: 75,Sagarin, 64
The Golden Eagles are coming off their second loss of the season to Memphis, and that may have just sealed their NCAA tournament fate. They still have a good RPI, and a decent SOS, but have dipped below .500 (4-5) versus the top 100 RPI, and that is just tough to overcome as a mid-major. However, the Golden Eagles still have 4 top 100 games left on their schedule. If they win out, they might just put themselves back into the conversation.
OUTLOOK: The Golden Eagles are a solid team, and had they picked up a win or two here and there (Colorado St, Memphis) they would be in a completely different position. However, that's not what has happened, and the Golden Eagles tournament life has now been put on life support. If the tournament started today, they would likely be 10+ teams outside of the tournament.
4.) UTEP Miners (18-5, 7-2) RPI: 53, SOS: 137, Last 10: 8-2, Pomeroy: 61, Sagarin: 69
The Miners are the best team in Conference USA, and it will stay that way until someone proves otherwise. Unfortunately, just being the best team in your league doesn't always get you into the NCAA tournament. The Miners are currently 3-3 vs. the top 100 RPI, with 4 top 100 games left on their schedule. They DESPERATELY need all of those wins. Tomorrow night brings the showdown with fellow bubble buddy Southern Miss, and like the Memphis-UAB game, the winner will certainly be given a bit of a boost. At this point the Miners can ill afford to drop a game versus the top 100, and at the same time can't lose to anyone outside of that either. It's officially win out time.
OUTLOOK: The Miners have not done themselves any favors this year. They've missed opportunities, their schedule turned out a lot weaker than most had planned, and now their tournament hopes are in grave danger. In my opinion, its win out, or win the conference tourney. Anything short of that will probably have the Miners NIT bound. If the tournament started today, the Miners are probably 10+ teams out.
This year Conference USA has established themselves as one of the best conferences in the nation, outside the power 6. Unfortunately, our teams still have to build solid resumes to beat out teams from major conferences who probably aren't very deserving themselves. That's just the nature of the beast. At this point, Memphis has the best shot at receiving an at large bid with 8 top 100 victories. UAB was well on its way to earning their own before Cameron Moore was injured. They've still got a shot, but they have to play well without him. Southern Miss and UTEP have a shot, but are in the worst position of the four. UTEP has a great shot to win its remaining games, and put itself in the NCAA tournament, and also has a backup plan with the conference tournament being in El Paso. When all is said and done, C-USA should at least get 2 bids, and if things work out well 3 is definitely a possibility.
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Awesome work here-
This might be the only place where you can get the RPI/ Records/ SOS/KenPom/Sagarin ratings of all four C-USA teams with a bubble chance.
I think this is a 2 bid league and I agree that Memphis has the best chance at an at large right now. UTEP has to get the USM/Memphis games to get the 2 top 50 RPI wins- if they do that, the Miners at large profile will be vastly improved going into the tourney- and might be able to lose the tourney championship game and still get in. Lose either of those and I’m afraid UTEP will have to win the tourney. There is no margin of error right now.
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I agree
I was actually reading an insider post on ESPN.com about the fact that bubble teams really benefit by playing well down the stretch. Most recently, and on the top of their list is UTEP (2010). Obviously won like 16 in a row, but that included everything down the stretch, and thats what really mattered. What’s very interesting, and exciting about the post is that they also have a list of teams who they think will finish strong this year. UTEP is at the top of the list. They project a 7-0 finish. They also have UAB on the list of first four out, just waiting to take the spot of someone that might slip up down the stretch.
C-USA is much better than last year
we keep saying that but now i got the proof to back it up this was last years final rpi rankings n records for c-usa
UTEP- 42- 26-7
UAB- 48- 25-9
Memphis- 57- 24-10
Tulsa- 69- 23-12
Marshall- 74- 24-10
houston- 120- 19-16
Southern Miss 121- 20-14
UCF- 190- 15-17
SMU- 211- 14-17
ECU- 231- 10-21
Tulane- 284- 8-22
RICE- 311- 8-23
by el javi on Feb 15, 2011 4:04 PM MST reply actions 3 recs
That's stunning
Absolutely stunning- 5 top 100 teams to 7 this year, but the real improvement is at the bottom of the league. Rice was #311?! Southern Miss from 121 to #43. Tulane, while still low, has improved markedly. ECU up over 100 spots.
Great stuff here, rec’d.
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This is great info here
Last year we had two in the top 50, and five in the top 100, this year we have 3 in the top 50, 7 in the top 100, and no teams worse than 225 (Last year 3 worse than that). I can see how we were a one bid league last year, but how can people want to say the say about us this year???? Its amazing.
You would think
That teams like ours would be the ones to benefit from the tournament expanding, but no apparently they did it so they could fit more power 6 schools in…Ridiculous.
Too bad C-USA is not getting deserved respect in the polls/projections
In my opinion UTEP, UAB, and USM are essentially playing in their tournaments now. It’s one and done, or they must win the conference tourney. This is what makes college ball so much fun and makes you want to pull your hair out. The pressure cooker is nearly pegged.
These 4 C-USA teams are all deserving of bids. It would be great to see more than 2 get in and win a few this year. The conference is on the right track as far as basketball is concerned.
Its amazing to me because the field expanded
With 4 more teams, I can’t believe this league is viewed the way it is considering how much better it is.
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bubblewatch
The A-10 looks like it is getting a little too much credit.
"BCS does not apply to basketball. It's football. You can't tell me Memphis is a mid-major. You can't tell me UTEP, with its history of players, crowd attendance and NCAA Tournament berths, is a mid-major. Same for Gonzaga and St. Mary's - it doesn't apply. These are high-major programs that can play. All we can do is win games and hope others recognize. … We should pass the eye test - if anybody ever watches us." - Tim Floyd
You know the bubble "watch" doesn't bother me so much
But that idiot Joe Lunardi really grinds my gears. Seriously he has richmond in ahead of Memphis and UAB. You can obviously see Conference USA’s resumes above, but here is Richmond’s….RPI: 71, SOS: 190, Last 10: 8-2, Pomeroy: 55, Sagarin: 43. 4-4 vs the top 100. The ONLY thing that the Spiders have to hang their hat on is a win over Purdue. That was back in November……More than Richmond, how about Alabama? RPI: 87, SOS: 136, Last 10: 8-2, Pomeroy: 35, Sagarin: 61, 3-4 vs the top 100….How they are so high on the Pomeroy I have no clue, but RPI of 87 and 3-4 vs the top 100, are you kidding me??
I will say one thing though
I did A LOT of research on the bubble today, and there are just not a lot of quality teams out there. Period. You’ve got a lot of teams who may be playing well, but don’t have quality wins, or teams with quality wins who are playing like crap. There are very few teams that are near the bubble that are worthy of getting an at large bid. IMO, Memphis and UAB deserve spots ahead of a lot of other teams, but unfortunately my opinion doesn’t count.
I'll tell you what I find truly amazing.....
We lost, what some/many might consider ours and the leagues, two best players in Caracter & Moultrie in a year when C-USA has actually become tougher yet we find ourselves atop the conference and in the hunt for a conference title. There’s no way this could’ve been done with Barbee at the helm. This is all CTF & company. I’ve read a lot of “Thank Tony Barbee” rhetoic lately for bringing in these players, however CTF & company have done one hell of a job all things considered.
Great Point, we were projected to finish 4th-6th in the league, and yet we find ourselves on top.
Just imagine how we would be doing if Caracter or Moultrie stayed? Pretty scary…
"BCS does not apply to basketball. It's football. You can't tell me Memphis is a mid-major. You can't tell me UTEP, with its history of players, crowd attendance and NCAA Tournament berths, is a mid-major. Same for Gonzaga and St. Mary's - it doesn't apply. These are high-major programs that can play. All we can do is win games and hope others recognize. … We should pass the eye test - if anybody ever watches us." - Tim Floyd
Its cool to think about
But I wonder what DC and AM think. I mean sure DC is playing for the Lakers, but if he would’ve stayed and put in the work he did over the summer to get on the Lakers roster he would be a hands down first rounder in the upcoming draft. He’d be getting drafted to come in and produce, and not only that, but make the real money. AM, I’m sure he would’ve bolted either way after his junior year, but he could have had two years under Floyd to flourish into a true all star….So again, I definitely think about the fact that we’re winning the league without those guys, where would we be with them? Top 10 maybe? I just wonder how they feel.
Derrick is making money, and he is on a team where he has a shot to win a title with right now.
Moultrie on the other hand is on a mediocre team sitting out a year wishing he would of stayed!
"BCS does not apply to basketball. It's football. You can't tell me Memphis is a mid-major. You can't tell me UTEP, with its history of players, crowd attendance and NCAA Tournament berths, is a mid-major. Same for Gonzaga and St. Mary's - it doesn't apply. These are high-major programs that can play. All we can do is win games and hope others recognize. … We should pass the eye test - if anybody ever watches us." - Tim Floyd
by jakeprobst on Feb 15, 2011 9:37 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
DC was a one year and done regardless...
I hate to say this as everybodies personnel motivation and circumstances are different, however I do believe AM made a poor decision as well.
I think you're right...
I think we would probably be a top 10 ranked team right now had they stayed. More so with DC than Arnett, but probably would’ve had more attention on us, and perhaps the conference, had they stayed.
I really do wonder what Arnett's thinking right about now...
and anyone with any knowledge or maybe a twitter feed of his please weigh in because I am just going off opinion…
but Miss State is a train wreck/laughing stock of the SEC and truth is Stansbury may not make it past this season. Their best player, Renardo Sidney, who is very talented, but troubled, has been suspended numerous times and then came his infamous fight with his own teammate in the stand at a tourney in Hawaii…if u havent seen itm check it out…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLOktTL9xVI
Their top 2 guards have been suspended for numerous games this year and they just blew a 19 point lead to Barbee’s terrible Auburn squad…HAHAHA.
I loved AM’s game and thought without Caracter clogging up the middle he wouldve easily been a double-double guy and dominant in the post…something like 16-10-3 blocks a game, but he made a decision and has to live with it now…I do wish him the best of luck but ur telling me he couldn’t stick it out with CTF, his friends, a familiar community for half a year, WFT!! dumb dumb dumb…
I did notice at last year’s CUSA tourney he did have a few so-called handlers with him at all times, not even DC was being followed by a posse like AM was…and DC was the better player.
Again, if anyone has any direct knowledge, please let me know and lets make it clear I loved the way he played, dude was impressive his Freshman year when we didn’t have a ligitimate big man…many of yall may not remember but take a look at his line from the CUSA tourney against UH…and the rest of the CBI after that…plus he made a huge sacrifice last season playing the wing so DC could take the post.
http://espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=290712638
BTW, damn Jackson was awesome that game as well…one of the best to put on a UTEP jersey, but never play in the NCAA tourney..hope DJ is doing well.
He also had a chance to play at Texas. Guess he wanted to be closer to home?
"BCS does not apply to basketball. It's football. You can't tell me Memphis is a mid-major. You can't tell me UTEP, with its history of players, crowd attendance and NCAA Tournament berths, is a mid-major. Same for Gonzaga and St. Mary's - it doesn't apply. These are high-major programs that can play. All we can do is win games and hope others recognize. … We should pass the eye test - if anybody ever watches us." - Tim Floyd
And don't forget that Texas, as in #3 Texas, and Kentucky wanted him
No idea why he chose MSU over those schools. I will say that I don’t have any first hand knowledge about handlers, etc. His move made no sense to me because he had a chance to be a 2nd round pick last year. Now by sitting out, he’s become an afterthought. He’ll need a big year next season, at his age, to get drafted because he won’t be young enough to be considered an “upside guy.”
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Try this
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The Poll- pretty clear we all see C-USA as a 2 bid league
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Yeah the voters say 2
But I’ve been doing a lot of research on the bubble teams, and honestly it is extremely weak. I didn’t want to hear that when I first did, but looking into it myself, there just aren’t a lot of quality teams around the bubble. If a couple of the one that are on the bubble lose a couple of games down the stretch there is just no way they can get in. Between Memphis, UTEP, and UAB. If two of those three finish the reg season strong, and the other wins the conference tourney. We are definitely a three bid league. I don’t know that its real likely, but its definitely a possibility.
And by the way
UCF f***ed everything! They had solid early season wins, were ranked in the top 25, and were the main attraction in C-USA. If they could’’ve just kept pace, and only lose 2, 3, 4 conference games to this point, instead of losing 8 in a row, I think we would definitely be a 3 bid league.
Yes they did- C-USA was a 2 bid LOCK
with a good UCF- with a chance at three. Yet another reason to hate UCF
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muchisimas gracias
c-usa definitely is AT LEAST a 2 bid league. i know that after forcing my buddies to actually watch c-usa bball, they all have new found appreciation for the quality of basketball in our league—they just never watched.
The term BCS conference has no place at all in college basketball discussions. football is a completely different animal, and there are power teams to emerge out of non-football conferences/schools throughout the history of college bball.
I don’t think other college sports have to deal with this misapplied analogy. for instance, in college tennis, UT-Knoxville, Pepperdine, Univ. of Minnesota, Twin Cities, are all ranked in top-25 (26 actually, but i’m trying to prove a point). Clearly, that sport has figured out that success in tennis should stand alone and only be viewed and critiqued by success, performance, and potential in that particular arena. Because of this their teams are ranked accordingly. I am pretty confident that the term BCS is never used in the context of that sport, whether from fans or the media, and the same should be true for college basketball.
My signature says it all... haha
"BCS does not apply to basketball. It's football. You can't tell me Memphis is a mid-major. You can't tell me UTEP, with its history of players, crowd attendance and NCAA Tournament berths, is a mid-major. Same for Gonzaga and St. Mary's - it doesn't apply. These are high-major programs that can play. All we can do is win games and hope others recognize. … We should pass the eye test - if anybody ever watches us." - Tim Floyd

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