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The Dig: Still the Mike Price Era Edition

Hello Miner Nation, and welcome to another edition of The Dig. Obviously, the hottest topic around sports in El Paso over the last few days has been the status of UTEP football coach Mike Price. Well, you can still vent about it, but you don't have to wonder what's going to happen. Mike Price will return as head coach of the UTEP football team for a 9th season as announced by the University today. That said, here's what's going on around Miner Nation, around Conference USA, and around the entire country.

AROUND MINER NATION

Mike Price to Return for 9th season:

It's official, Mike Price is coming back for his 9th season. You may or may not be happy about it, but I truly believe that this is the best thing for UTEP football. Mike Price has put together a 45-52 record since taking over in El Paso, and had led the Miners to 3 bowl games. That's more bowl appearances than in the previous three decades .

No doubt, there's been ups and downs. In fact, the end to this football season may have been the most disappointing stretch throughout the entire Mike Price era. It prompted many fans throughout the Sun City to question his leadership, and call for changes at the top of UTEP football. Obviously, those changes didn't happen, and here's my best guess as to why.

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First off, is the money issue. Mike Price still has one year left on his contract, and in order to remove him, the University would have needed to buy out the remainder of that contract. Doesn't seem like much, but it is certainly enough to make a difference.

Second, Mike Price only has one year left on his contract. Does anyone really think that making a move now is going to better the football team, or attendance for next year's games?? I doubt it. It makes no sense to pull Price now, let him have his last year, and that will be that.

Lastly, Mike Price has earned the right to finish out his contract. UTEP gave Mike Price a second chance when he ran into his issues at Alabama, but at the same time Mike Price has breathed a breath of life into a program that was absolutely horrendous before he got here. We may not be seeing the 8, 9, 10 win seasons that we all dream of, but this program is always competing, something it very, very rarely did before Price. UTEP and Mike Price have been good for each other, and there's no reason to end the relationship on a sour note.

Here's an awesome writeup by the staff over at Miner Illustrated. It really gives a quick glimpse of what CMP has done in his time at UTEP. The Miners will return 7 offensive starters, and 4 on the defensive end. We will lose big time players like Joe Banyard and Travaun Nixon, but we will welcome the return of guys like Lamaison, Meger, Edwards, Jeffrey, Leslie, Reed, and Bagley. I know its hard to get over the disappointment of this season, but I can't wait to see what we can do next year.

UTEP Men's Basketball Shows Improvement/Gabe McCulley Returns to Action

The UTEP men's basketball team played a tough road game on Tuesday night in Eugene, OR as they squared off against the Pac-12's Oregon Ducks (4-1). The Miners stayed close the entire game, were tied at the half, and had a shot to tie with only seconds left. A Mike Perez shot came up a bit short, and the Miners fell 64-59. Perez led the way with 18, while John Bohannon had perhaps his best game as a Miner with a 13 point, 9 rebound effort.

Gabe McCulley, who had been out thus far recovering from an injury, returned to action and played 24 minutes. McCulley didn't score any points, but one would assume that his presence and leadership alone made a difference in that Miner lineup. I'd expect Gabe to start getting his scoring on track in the very near future, and if Mike and Bo can step up and play like they did on a consistent basis, this team will be a lot better, much sooner than everyone expects.

UTEP Women Steamroll Aggies

The UTEP women's basketball team continued their hot start on Tuesday night, dropping the New Mexico State Aggies by a final score of 63-27. The lady Miners' stifling defense held the Aggies to only 8 points in the first half, and the win improved them to 6-0 on the season. Up next is a home game against Lamar, before hitting the road to take on the New Mexico Lobos up in Albuquerque.

AROUND CONFERENCE USA

UAB Off to Slow Start, Tulane Rolling

Much like their football team, the UAB basketball team is off to a very unexpected slow start. Many people expected the Blazers to be one of the better teams in Conference USA, but those plans have stalled a bit as UAB fell to 1-5 after last night's 55-47 loss to South Alabama. The Blazers have now dropped games against Creighton, Murray St., Wichita St., and Tennesse Martin, along with South Alabama. Their lone win came against Troy.

On the other side of things, the Tulane Green Wave, a team which many expected to finish near the bottom of C-USA, has now improved to 8-0 on the young season. The Green Wave haven't exactly beaten any great teams, but hey 8-0 is 8-0. Up next is a home game against Georgia Tech, and still on the slate is a trip to Syracuse to take on the #3 Orangemen.

Houston QB Case Keenum Among Finalists for Walter Camp Award

University of Houston QB Case Keenum has already set tons of NCAA and school records in his time with the Cougars, and now he is trying to add a Walter Camp Award to his collection of achievements. Keenum, along with Stanford QB Andrew Luck, Baylor QB Robert Griffin III, Alabama RB Trent Richardson, and LSU CB Tyrann Mathieu are the finalists for the Walter Camp Player of the Year Award. Auburn QB Cam Newton won the award last season.

Tulsa Volleyball Traveling Nearly 2000 Miles to Play...Oklahoma??

The Tulsa women's volleyball team will play the University of Oklahoma in the opening round of the NCAA tournament in Los Angeles. The Sooners finished the season with 21-11 record, while the Golden Hurricane finished with a 27-6 mark. The two teams met last year in the NCAA tourney's second round, a match won by the Sooners in five sets.

AROUND THE NATION

Sandusky "May Consider" Guilty Plea

Attorney Joe Amendola, who represents accused child molester and former Penn St. assistant coach Jerry Sandusky, has come forth to say that Sandusky may consider pleading guilty to the charges brought against him. Sandusky maintains his innocence, but accusers continue to out to tell their story of how Sandusky abused them. The most recent one claims the coach threatened to harm his family if he didn't keep quiet. At this point, it really doesn't matter what the guy pleads. I think we all know the outcome of a trial, if it were to come to that.

The Big East, West Virginia Continue to Dance

Representatives from the Big East, and West Virginia University continue to do the legal dance as both parties seek to have the others' lawsuit thrown out. West Virginia filed suit in an attempt to vacate the conference as soon as next season, while the Big East seeks to hold on to whatever it is they have, for as long as they can, as well as grab some cash for "damages". We'll see what happens with this one.

QUICK NOTE:

**Don't forget the Conference USA championship game between #6 Houston, and #24 Southern Miss will take place on Saturday at 12:00 p.m. ET, and will be televised by ABC.

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Damn good work here Asalom

And I agree with your assessment on Coach Price. Who can UTEP afford to hire after paying a buyout? Nobody better than Price. Sadly financial necessity has to
Be considered.

by Adrian Mac on Dec 1, 2011 3:22 PM MST reply actions  

yeah

I mean Natalicio is big on athletics, but not that big. She’s not gonna go pull money from other places just so we can hire a new coach. Especially when we’ve got Mike Price…I mean, we finished 5-7, not 1-11…I just think that this is more the reason for people in El Paso to start going to games. If we sold tickets, and generated revenue, we’d have the ability to pay buyouts, and hire new coaches, if that is what was needed. But, with no revenue, how can we do it? I think it was Minermaniax that brought up trying to bring in Mike Leach. It woulda been great, but the guy is gonna get like $3M a year from Wazu. How can we compete with that in any way

p.s. we need you posting again A-Mac. Things aren’t the same around here.

by asalom on Dec 1, 2011 3:44 PM MST up reply actions  

You're exactly right

On all fronts including my need to post again. I’m slowly getting back into the groove.

As to Price- and I will write a post on this (really) – It might be possible this was the best job he’s done in el paso. Injuries, inexperience, and dwindling fan support he had UtEP a win away from another bowl game. Who else in program history can do that?

by Adrian Mac on Dec 1, 2011 5:24 PM MST up reply actions  

This 'Better Than Price' hogwash needs to stop...

He has yet to accomplish anything of significance at UTEP besides taking the team to 3 toilet bowls and getting completely blown out to Toledo and BYU.

Anything is an upgrade. Unless Stull decides he wants to coach again. lol

by TooLegitToQuit on Dec 1, 2011 6:18 PM MST up reply actions  

TLTQ

Let’s be honest. Mike Price is a big time coach. A big time coach that we would have never gotten if not for his incident at Alabama. He is the best we’ll get. I’m not saying no up and coming young assistant coach couldn’t experience more success, but CMP is the best coach UTEP will ever have. He has done A LOT for this community and university. Bottom line is we don’t have the money to hire a better coach, and even if we did, they wouldn’t want to come here. Those are the facts. Not opinions, facts.

by asalom on Dec 1, 2011 6:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Mike Price is a big time coach by name only..

Not due to his coaching and recruiting classes.

He’s subpar. 6 STRAIGHT LOSING SEASONS is a product of that. Time to cut bait.

by TooLegitToQuit on Dec 1, 2011 8:09 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

guys..

leach has paid his dues..whether we could’ve afforded him or not isn’t in this equation..he wasn’t gonna come to utep.

agree w you guys on price getting to stay etc.

by mattw on Dec 1, 2011 5:34 PM MST reply actions  

you're probably right

And that’s what people need to realize. One, we don’t have the money to pay good coaches, and two, we are UTEP not UT. No big name coach would want to come here, especially without the money to pay him.

by asalom on Dec 1, 2011 6:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Dwindling ticket sales and no excitement

has to do more with the type of fan we have in this city more than anything else. Even when we had a 16 game winning streak and were ranked in the top 25 (basketball) fans wouldn’t pack the Don. We have terrible fans that love to complain, and not do their part. We need more people who truly care about UTEP athletics because it represents their city, and not people who think we deserve a coach that will supposedly take us to some next level. UTEP’s football program before Mike Price was literally trash. And now because of Mike Price, we feel like we deserve better than the man that brought it up from trash.

by asalom on Dec 1, 2011 6:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Why go to a game when Price and Co have done everything humanly possible to alienate the fan base?

UTEP football is back to the way it was before Price, complete dog shit and a total scam, I went to a couple games this year, and every single time I’ve felt conned out of my money.

Price’s 6 STRAIGHT LOSING SEASONS have all but wiped out his good cred when he first got here.

by TooLegitToQuit on Dec 1, 2011 8:14 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

clpbrd

right on. its the truth.

by asalom on Dec 2, 2011 11:20 AM MST up reply actions  

thanks for acknowledge asalom...

CMP in his final year without a contract extension sets the program back a couple of years. Why? Because no good recruit would want to come here knowing CMP is a lame duck coach…I’m a fan of coach Price who’s simply stating the facts..

For this to work 1. They must give him an extension or 2. Designate someone like an assistant coach who will take over.

Mike Leach was for the taking last year. He was damage goods and would have accepted a head coaching position at a low salary I’m sure. I mentioned him before he got the that offer. I’m not sure if he gets any offer if wasu doesn’t come calling…I guarantee he will have wasu in Rosebowl within 3 years…

by MinerManiax on Dec 1, 2011 7:19 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Still not the right price

now that we know that Price is coming back. let’s hope that Stull keeps a handy list of potential candidates for after next season. let’s face it,it will be hard for Price to have much of a winning season in 2012 with that talent coming back and especially with that sorry defense.

At times, it is hard to blame Price for mediocre season, because he is working with mediocre talent. then again, he is the only one that can improve the talent, isn’t he?
My feeling is that the school administration is content with this type of football program………….that is what worries me.

by pumaxuno on Dec 1, 2011 8:19 PM MST reply actions  

i rather keep mp

Assuming we get a up n coming young coach n four years down the road he takes us to two bowl games n maybe we win one. We all know what happens next a bcs school comes calling n our coach is gone n we’re back to 2-11

by el javi on Dec 1, 2011 11:09 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Damn good post DFW

Rec’d it. You just summarized the way a vast majority of
The fan base feels. I thought CMP exceeded expectations this year but you are right to say “why are expectations still so low?”. It were not getting better as a program, we are getting worse. Thanks for posting this.

by Adrian Mac on Dec 2, 2011 9:27 AM MST up reply actions  

posted this is other thread but here goes:

but next year we have 7 offensive starters returning, 4 on d…we SHOULD be better just w/ experience. should being the keyword, of course.

here’s my take:
price should get this extra year and get to go out with a winning record. it’s up to him to be able to do that. if he can’t go 7-5 at the minimum next year with this team, he’ll probably never do it again and that will be that as far as his run at utep.

i know utep fans aren’t really good at this, and bob stull doesn’t seem to give a rip..but there needs to be pressure for stull to find the sorts of guys he hired as basketball coaches pre-tim floyd. when he got on the hot streak of gillespie, sadler, and barbee…young guys with something to prove, energetic recruiters with systems that worked. for people thinking well the turnover of coaches can’t be good…it takes longer in football to build something that would really get you hired away. outside of a few, hiring staff in football is slow and archaic…it takes time to get noticed, then you have to meet the level of consistency that’s acceptable to some stodgy 60+ year old AD, and on and on.

as an addition to that…do you guys think our fans have the patience for someone to actually build the program to what they want? it’d take at least 3-4 years.

by mattw on Dec 2, 2011 10:58 AM MST up reply actions  

This was a disapointment but

Was it worse than watching Palmer and Vittatoe not close out seasons?

by DefinitelyMaybe on Dec 2, 2011 12:40 AM MST via mobile reply actions  


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