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Judgment Day: Will the NCAA Place Recruiting Restrictions on UTEP's Tim Floyd?

On Friday, the NCAA Committee on Infractions is set to release their findings into a multi-year investigation into alleged major infractions in the USC football and basketball program.  Why does this matter to UTEP fans?  Good question and there's a very simple answer:  If the NCAA determines that new Miner basketball coach Tim Floyd did commit violations while he was the head coach at USC, the Committee on Infractions could assess recruiting violations on Floyd personally.  UTEP, of course, can't be punished as an institution for whatever may or may not have happened at USC.  But the NCAA can restrict Floyd individually- which in essence would create a de facto sanction on UTEP basketball.


Background

The day UTEP hired Tim Floyd, we discussed the likelihood that the NCAA could levy sanctions against him.  Here's the quick summary of the allegations I wrote then.

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There is a reason why Tim Floyd won 20 games in three consecutive season at USC, went to three straight NCAA Tournaments (including a Sweet 16 appearance) but is no longer coaching Southern Cal.  He resigned from USC amid a looming NCAA scandal related to alleged cash payouts to one of O.J. Mayo's personal associates, Rodney Guillory.  If you want a complete breakdown of the Floyd allegations, go here, where Yahoo! Sports writers Charles Robinson and Jason Cole run through the alleged payments. 

Last month, Floyd testified before the NCAA Committee on Infractions where he, and USC, presented their case denying the allegations made by a "confidant" of Mayo's. Floyd, no longer employed by USC, had no legal obligation to testify.  But, he went anyway and stated his case to the committee.  He didn't run from the accusations.  He faced them head on, even after he felt USC's athletic department turned their back on him.

Before the hearing, USC announced self imposed sanctions, including vacating 21 wins from the 2007-2008 season, scholarship reductions, and a ban on postseason play in 2009 (which included the PAC 10 Tournament).

Monday, AP writer Alicia Caldwell asked UTEP athletic director Bob Stull whether or not he was worried about potential penalties when he hired Floyd. 

"Tim had never had a previous NCAA violation and from further investigation we, along with five other universities who were trying to hire him, felt like it was unlikely for (the) allegations to be valid," Stull said.

Tomorrow, the answers to a lot of questions will be answered.  We'll finally know if Reggie Bush is ruled ineligible for taking well over $200,000 in cash and gifts while starring for the Trojans football team.  The football accusations encompass a bulk of the investigation and obviously have the highest stakes.  A national championship and a Heisman Trophy may be swinging in the balance.  The basketball accusations are, of course, centered around the accusation that Floyd himself handed $1,000 in cash to Guillory, who in turn, helped secure O.J. Mayo's commitment to USC. 

Even if the NCAA does find Floyd broke rules, the NCAA could simply adopt the self-imposed sanctions as the total punishment, right?  Yes, that's true.  But, there's also the tale of Kelvin Sampson. Which brings me to the key question.

The Key Question:  Has the NCAA ever placed sanctions on a coach at a new school for violations that occurred at his old program?

Yes, and it was in a high profile case just like this one.   The last time it happened, the violations surrounded former Oklahoma and Indiana head basketball coach Kelvin Sampson.  Here's a summary of what happened with Sampson- forgive the formatting, I am having trouble with it as I'm to import this from a paper I wrote on NCAA punishment mechanisms and recruiting.

 

Prior to being hired at Indiana, Mr. Sampson was the head coach at Oklahoma University.  While at Oklahoma, the NCAA enforcement staff investigated Mr. Sampson for potential major infractions. In April of 2007, Indiana, aware of pending investigation,  hired him away from OU with a seven year contract that guaranteed him a salary of over $1 million per season. Before Mr. Sampson ever coached a game at Indiana, the NCAA Infractions committee ruled he and his staff had made 577 impermissible phone calls to recruits and that Sampson himself was personally responsible for about half of that total.  NCAA Infractions Committee Chairman, Thomas Yeager, noted that Sampson’s conduct constituted "deliberate noncompliance" and "willful violations."  He also noted that he there were more documented calls, each one its own violation, than he had ever been familiar with and that the violations were successful for Sampson in that four of the recruits he contacted impermissibly signed to play with OU.  As a result of the investigation, Sampson was barred from making any phone calls to prospective recruits for one year at Indiana.

            Indiana, aware of the investigation, had negotiated a clause in Mr. Sampson’s contract that gave the university the option to terminate his employment should the NCAA’s punishments exceed the penalties expected for the violations (those self imposed by Oklahoma) which they ultimately did.  Indiana declined to exercise the option and elected to let Sampson keep the position of head basketball coach.  In October of 2007, less than a year after Sampson started his new job at IU, Indiana self reported potential violations to the NCAA related to 133 impermissible phone calls made by Sampson and assistant coaches.  Indiana took no action against Sampson but instead allowed him to terminate an assistant coach in response to the allegations.  Only four months later, the NCAA sent notice to Indiana that Sampson had committed five major violations related to even more occurrences of impermissible phone calls with potential recruits.  Indiana knew of Mr. Sampson’s past recruiting violations before they hired him; allowed an assistant coach to "fall on the sword" for another instance of intentional violations after he had been sanctioned, and then ultimately had to fire him when he was caught breaking the same rule for the third time in two years.

So, in summary:

  • IU knew Sampson was under investigation when they hired him away from Oklahoma (like UTEP did when they hired Floyd)
  • IU protected their program by negotiating a clause in Sampson's contract that permitted them a way out of the deal should the sanctions be stronger than those self-imposed by OU. (I am not sure if UTEP included a similar provision in Tim Floyd's contract)
  • IU did not exercise the contractual option when the sanctions were in excess of those self imposed by OU. 
  • The NCAA restricted Sampson's ability to use telephone calls on prospective recruits while at IU for one year. 

The key here is that the NCAA found "deliberate noncompliance" and "willful violations" related to Sampson's conduct.  Obviously, this was proven to be an accurate finding as Sampson again violated the rules after the NCAA imposed their penalties on him at Indiana.  If the NCAA finds that Floyd did in fact give cash to Guillory, then it's safe to say that the conduct will be "deliberate" and "willful" due to the very nature of the claim.  So, there is some precedent here that says that the NCAA can place a restriction on Floyd at UTEP. 

What kind of restriction?  Trust me, as someone who researched and wrote a 25 page paper on NCAA Regulations and Punishment, there's absolutely no way of telling what kind of punishment the NCAA could impose.  It literally will differ from case to case.  Sampson's punishment was simple, a one year moratorium on telephone recruiting, but that doesn't help us when predicting potential punishment here simply because the alleged violations are quite different.

Well, we'll know soon enough whether or not the NCAA will impose penalties on Floyd and we'll have Floyd's take on the ruling soon thereafter.  ESPN's Andy Katz tweeted that Floyd will hold a teleconference for reporters on Monday to address whatever is revealed tomorrow.

Full coverage of the NCAA's findings tomorrow.

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Interesting...

AMac, you have an intersting take when you draw the parallels between IU/OU and UTEP/SC; however I believe there are some glaring comparison differences that don’t allow for similar conculsions to be drawn.
1. Sampson was already sanctioned or being investigated for issues at OU when issues arose at IU. This is not the case here.
2. There were “577” impermissable contacts by Sampson & Company which can be seen as a gross infraction obviously determined to be salacious with “intent”. This is a “he said – she said” with a individual who has no previously proven issues. Yes, there are those that will point to previous questions about CTF while at ISU, however those were fully investigated and were found to be legitimate, albeit unconventional, recruiting tactics. Tactics which were later prohibited and recently reversed by the NCAA.

C’mon Counselor these are two huge disimilarities which compares peaches to angel hair pasta…..then again, I could be wrong.

by MinerMike on Jun 3, 2010 8:05 PM MDT reply actions  

Hey MM-

I wasn’t trying to say that we should expect some infractions- I think Stull’s confidence speaks volumes- I was merely saying that it is possible that the NCAA could come impose a sanction on Floyd. Floyd has gone about the investigation the exact way he should have.

He was under no obligation to testify before the Committee, yet he did and I think his confidence is well placed. Your points under #2 are dead on- and I fully agree. There’s no evidence that Floyd did anything wrong except for the word of a convicted felon! He’s managed to coach at the collegiate level for years and has never gotten into any sort of problems with the NCAA. The only similarities between Floyd/Sampson in my eyes are limited to the following:

1. UTEP knew Floyd was being investigated when he was hired, as did IU when they hired Sampson (the Committee hadn’t issued rulings yet in either situation).
2. Both scenarios involved big names and major programs (USC, Floyd, Sampson, OU, and Indiana).

That’s really it. I keep reading these vague references in articles that say that Floyd could be punished but nobody has taken the time to explain what kind of punishment could be levied. Also, nobody has given us an example of a similar situation where a coach was punished after leaving the program where infractions were assessed. That’s what I wanted to do here, show Miner fans that it has happened before and that the IU/OU situation is probably the only example we could look at for some sort of idea of what the worst case scenario is.

by Adrian Mac on Jun 3, 2010 8:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

Gotcha....

I’m right there with you brother. Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s important to debate both sides of the issues as it leads to a more fair and balanced perspective. Without objectivity, we’d just be Memphis! {gratuitous cheap shot inserted here} haha

by MinerMike on Jun 3, 2010 8:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

True that!

I’m still getting reports sent my way about how D Rose did nothing wrong! The guy didn’t take the SAT’s!!

by Adrian Mac on Jun 3, 2010 8:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

USC salaries for 2008 to include Tim Floyd

USA today has an article about the compensation paid to the football & basketball coaches and AD Mike Garrett in 2008. Note:—-mention of Tim Floyd salary paid in 2008———

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2010-06-04-carroll-usc-salary_N.htm

by JACELP on Jun 4, 2010 2:23 PM MDT reply actions  

I believe that NCAA is delaying report on USC infractions out of respect to Coach John Wooden!

NCAA probably knew that John Wooden was about to depart us—-and out of respect—-delayed the USC report on infractions related to the football and basketball program.

The infractions report on USC if relaesed at the same time of John Wooden’s death would have been seen as cold and insenative to his life and accomplishments.

Look for NCAA to delay USC report for some time until after John Wooden burial and time to pay reapect to this ICON of collegiate sports.

by JACELP on Jun 6, 2010 11:02 AM MDT reply actions  

That's a distinct possibility- to leave the stage clear so Wooden

Could be properly remembered over the weekend. USC probably would have preferred the report come out, and then have the Wooden story take media attention away from it. But, good points, I hadn’t thought of that.

by Adrian Mac on Jun 6, 2010 1:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

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