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The Road over at Cowboy Altitude (SBNation's Wyoming Cowboys site) has a nice recap of the latest developments in the MWC/CUSA Merger talks. Among the ideas being discussed:

1. Championship game between top team in MWC and CUSA. Winner goes to a BCS Bowl.
2. Moving members to balance the leagues. UTEP could join the Mountain West and be close to New Mexico. Conference USA could focus on the Eastern half of Texas and the Southeast. Not sure this has a big chance of occurring since the Miners seem pretty happy playing so many other Texas schools.
3. Media Partnerships. Both leagues play some of their games on CBS College Sports. The MWC teams also appear on Versus and it's own network The Mtn. A few CUSA games get picked up by ESPN.
4. Scheduling partnerships for out of conference games. Basketball scheduling could be easier with road trips that hit two or three schools at once.

over 1 year ago Miner-xl_tiny Adrian Mac 4 comments 0 recs  | 

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Can we just do everyone a favor here and

turn this into a 16 team league already…seriously the writing is on the wall…
the eastern teams in CUSA wont be sticking around for too long once the Big East comes calling again…

UCF, Memphis and ECU will soon go into the Big East. That means they go to 20 basketball schools overall including TCU and 12 football schools and get the championship game everyone seems to want nowadays…

So in turn, the MWC and the Texas CUSA schools merge along with in Hawaii and Utah State and what u have is as follows…

MWCUSA North

Boise, Wyoming, Colo St, Fresno, Nevada, Utah State, UNLV, Air Force.

MWCUSA South

San Diego St, Hawaii, UNM, UTEP, Houston, Rice, Tulsa, SMU.

that’s 16 teams overall, play ur 7 division games and 2 crossover games and have a champ game at the end of the year…

This essentially covers major markets all across the western/mountain part of the US and keeps a major recruiting base in Texas and Calif for every team in the league.

Plus this keeps the league in decent shape to poach other mid-majors if for some reason the Big 12/Pac 12 ever expand again…

Southern Miss, Tulane, UAB, La Tech all go a revamped Sunbelt/WAC with North Texas, Troy, FIU, FAU, Midd Tenn St, NMSU, Texas State, UTSA, Troy, La Lafayette, Ark St…etc…doesnt this make sense to everyone? Geographically…

And BTW Marshall goes into the MAC, I think this is a dang good plan, I would love to see something like this happen!

by DFWMiner on Dec 2, 2010 2:10 PM MST reply actions  

Sounds okay but how would they be able to take the Big 12 leftovers if they are already at 16?

The “merger” is attractive to me because each conference goes to 12 so that covers 24 teams.

However by staying technically separate and at 12 they could easily grab the remaining Big 12 schools like Baylor, Texas Tech, and Okie St to go to 16.

by TowerPower on Dec 2, 2010 7:48 PM MST up reply actions  

I didn't read the entire article...

but what indication do u have that those Big 12 schools will be available in the future? Did I miss something here…is the Big 12 going to expand by dropping those 3 programs?

by DFWMiner on Dec 3, 2010 12:20 AM MST reply actions  

This is just based off my knowledge of the expansion deals from multiple sources...

I think most of us can agree that the Big Ten, PAC12, and SEC are the dominant conferences so if they decide to go to 16 they will pick apart the Big 12, ACC, and Big East to get there.

Speaking solely about the Big 12 schools.

The PAC 10 wanted mainly Texas, A&M, and OU the rest were just bribes to get those three (Texas Tech and Okie St will never get into the PAC10 otherwise) but that fell through because Texas wanted its own network (which none of the big 3 conferences will allow), A&M wanted the SEC. and OU wanted to stay with Oklahoma St and Texas. I’ll remind you also that no major conference wanted Baylor.

The SEC wanted A&M but only if everyone else was expanding, when it was clear that everyone was staying at 12 they stopped all talks. Also the SEC only wanted A&M if they could bring in another big member like OU who declined the unofficial offer from the SEC, the end game was to either try to get Texas by taking it major rivals, or if that failed they would take two eastern schools like Florida St and Clemson to keep the current divisions.

Since the Big Ten had apparently passed on Kansas and Mizzou most people thought the MWC/CUSA would get a shot at them until few days ago when it came out that IF the PAC16 had happened the remaining Big 12 North schools KU, K St, Mizzou, and Iowa St had an unofficial deal to join the Big East and be in the Western division with Louisville and Cinncy.

So now that Texas has its network IF any expansion happens most people assume they will go independent since no other major conference would allow them to keep it.

Most also assume that A&M would jump to the SEC if given the chance, and therefor OU, being a powerhouse of a program, would probably see the writing is on the wall and opt for SEC membership with A&M in order to stay in a major conference.

With the new information about the Big East wanting the North schools people believe that would be where these schools end up.

This only leave Texas Tech, Baylor, and Okie St. These schools have mediocre academics, and good (not great) athletic programs, and are not in major media markets nor have a large following, therefor most assume they would wind up in the MWC or CUSA….but who knows maybe the Big East would take them too.

by TowerPower on Dec 3, 2010 1:10 AM MST up reply actions  

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